substance painter

[albertos2008]

hello everybody,
I was playing a little bit with substance painter a powerful UV painting tool that offers two amazing features as:
_particle paint thats permit to simulate real life painting using physics
for example we can simulate fluid paint that flow on curved surface, rain drops and so on
_physichal generators that simulates rusting, edge damages and so on based on global maps baked directly into substance painter

unfortunately this tool doesn't have a direct link to lightwave but at the same time it offers a very flexible map output remap,
so it's easy to create an export scheme to newtek software.

this is my pipeline workflow,
I premise that I dont'use complex node based materials, I am a little bit far to that but results look nice however.

well substance painter workflow is very easy and these are the main steps:
1) import single lwo directly into substance, it will recognize every different surfaces precedently assigned into modeler
2) then we have to bake global texture just by pressing "bake" button, parameters are very few
3) we can start to paint using fill or brush guided tools, of course this software supports photoshop style layers so we can create layered materials with different coatings, we can also combine coatings togheter using auto-masks (generators) simulating grunge effects
4) we can now output different maps as diffuse, reflection, normal, and so on.

back to lightwave we have to assign different maps to right channels, I have personally created this easy scheme:

substance map lightwave channel notes
basecolor > color
roughness > diffuse
roughness > reflection ( fresnel gradient with PS-mult on top)
normal > normal (using nodes)
height > bump
metallic > refl blur (using nodes) ( inverted map + luma multiplier to better control blur effect)

for now I'm using this scheme, I know that I have to better tune in future but results are nice.

have a good mapping!...

[Janusz Biela]

I would like see video how to do it

[albertos2008]

hi Janusz...
video coming soon,
but I have never done video caps from screen... which tool is the best one?

[Janusz Biela]

hi Janusz...
video coming soon,
but I have never done video caps from screen... which tool is the best one?

Best tool:
Camtasia Studio. Is so easy to use ...my 12 years old son is very good in this software

[albertos2008]

ok, I'll find time to make a video soon...

[albertos2008]

voilà here's the video:

https://vimeo.com/144384562

sorry about the quality..

I don't know if this is OT, if yes you can remove all the post

Alberto

[Janusz Biela]

Thanks for video, indeed is not so simple in first shoot
Can you upload RAW texture from this chair or better scene? I will try do it by Nodes Edge/Corner.

[S0nny]

Alberto nice video, do you now if there is an option to export a full nodal setup from substance painter instead of the standard surface editor? I mean, not only the normal/bump and the ref blur, but the color, diffuse and reflection... could be a time saver for the nodal setup.

[albertos2008]

Unfortunately not (yet?)
there's no lightwave support..

but

substance suite is also a powerful bitmap export with a lot and customizable channels...
diffuse, normal, metallic, glossiness, specular and so on..
so the trick will be create an universal node and a functional bitmap export scheme...

btw have you seen the physical paint and generator features?...

alberto

[S0nny]

Yes the particle stuff is one of the most interesting part. I saw other videos about substance designer and substance painter because I'm curious if can really fit my workflow, but since I didn't have so much luck with kray and I'm back to the lw standard engine, before start to fit other sw in my wf I'll probably do some test with a trial. Anyway, what about complex objects with complex UVs and complex node networks? Having the right UVs seems a lot of work for lw... Do you use it for archviz?

[albertos2008]

Hello to all,
I was playing with substance painter days ago trying to find a good solution to convert substance material to kray surfaces.
in these lazy days I have find a good solution to remap output maps from substance to Kray

enclosed to this message you will find the universal shader preset and some render samples.

from substance painter side you have to remap your output with the enclosed scheme:

then just put the maps in the righ channel as the preset surface ask

hope that someone will improve better in future (with nodes),
for now enjoy.

thanks

Alberto

[albertos2008]

I'd like to upload the complete scene (3mb file zip)
but I don't know how to do it....

[Janusz Biela]

Use Upload attachment in post, same like pictures. Zip has valid extension status for uploading.

[albertos2008]

Use Upload attachment in post, same like pictures. Zip has valid extension status for uploading.

yes, is exactly what I've done...
I think that the sampleball.lwo is too big (4.6mb)
I pack the scene without lwo and I'll put lwo file in another post...

I have also reduced texturemaps dimensions

[albertos2008]

here's the objects folder