Help with nodal material
Help with nodal material
Slowly starting to understand the node system thanks to the new posts in the Node sector, great job!!
However I am still struggling to do certain things.
Maybe someone can help me out here.
I always start of with color, normal map and b/w alpa mask for grouting. but the lesser textures needed the better ofcourse.
I would like to make a default masonry material in which I can easily change the color of the grouting.
In my current setup I multiply a color to the main texture, but for dark bricks it will not be possible to get light grouting this way.
However I am still struggling to do certain things.
Maybe someone can help me out here.
I always start of with color, normal map and b/w alpa mask for grouting. but the lesser textures needed the better ofcourse.
I would like to make a default masonry material in which I can easily change the color of the grouting.
In my current setup I multiply a color to the main texture, but for dark bricks it will not be possible to get light grouting this way.
Re: Help with nodal material
Hello,
you can test with "invert" after your b/w alpha mask no ? You can't use normal blending in mixer ?
you can test with "invert" after your b/w alpha mask no ? You can't use normal blending in mixer ?
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Re: Help with nodal material
It must be done by:
- Image bomber - this is for fraction of color/contrast/saturation texture
- tile brick Node - to create mortar full control
- many connection with mixer/color tool
Image Bomber and Tile Node must be connection together with multiply (because scale works differently) to prevent overlapping.
Bump map is the most difficult in connections: I have to many times Inject textures with different levels of bump because mortar and surface has different level of bump.
In Nodes topic you have concrete material with tiles with my idea (will be develop) and btw thanks for this topic You remind me what I will do next
Actually this surface is very easy to do because I need maybe only one texture for that or maybe nothing. I will do it with full control because also this is very common surface.
The target for control should be:
- tile size (but without aspect ratio so tiles has same ratio height/wide, for example 3:1)
- mortar color
- mortar size
- mortar bump (mortar must have also micro bump but without control)
- color tile or texture (texture without control)
I know it sounds difficult and maybe not necessary but I believe this is correct way for HQ texturing because it save time, setup and RAM memory. But to achieve that it must be done very well. And of course the most important: having this Node you have infinitive versions of tiles textures!
- Image bomber - this is for fraction of color/contrast/saturation texture
- tile brick Node - to create mortar full control
- many connection with mixer/color tool
Image Bomber and Tile Node must be connection together with multiply (because scale works differently) to prevent overlapping.
Bump map is the most difficult in connections: I have to many times Inject textures with different levels of bump because mortar and surface has different level of bump.
In Nodes topic you have concrete material with tiles with my idea (will be develop) and btw thanks for this topic You remind me what I will do next

Actually this surface is very easy to do because I need maybe only one texture for that or maybe nothing. I will do it with full control because also this is very common surface.
The target for control should be:
- tile size (but without aspect ratio so tiles has same ratio height/wide, for example 3:1)
- mortar color
- mortar size
- mortar bump (mortar must have also micro bump but without control)
- color tile or texture (texture without control)
I know it sounds difficult and maybe not necessary but I believe this is correct way for HQ texturing because it save time, setup and RAM memory. But to achieve that it must be done very well. And of course the most important: having this Node you have infinitive versions of tiles textures!
Re: Help with nodal material
Indeed sounds difficult ... again.
It would be great to have a brick starter material
Btw where exactly do I find the concrete tile material, can't seem to find it?
It would be great to have a brick starter material

Btw where exactly do I find the concrete tile material, can't seem to find it?
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Re: Help with nodal material
In material Nodes topic hereAVLKray wrote:Indeed sounds difficult ... again.
It would be great to have a brick starter material
Btw where exactly do I find the concrete tile material, can't seem to find it?
Re: Help with nodal material
Found it, it's a great material already 
we need more like this

we need more like this

Re: Help with nodal material
Problem with bricks is that sometimes we could use a basic bump with color (and hue sat variations) to create different bricks
but sometimes we need to use 'special' bricks texture that already has lot of variation.
but sometimes we need to use 'special' bricks texture that already has lot of variation.
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Re: Help with nodal material
the texture is almost ready
Maybe today will upload it. Do not worry it will be variations 


Re: Help with nodal material
What would we ever do without you Janusz! 

Re: Help with nodal material
Btw does Kray support all nodes?
I was doing some testing with pavers using Random Integer node.
I unwelded all quads and used Kray Autoparts
It seems to work in LW (and fprime) but Kray doesn't render the variations.
I was doing some testing with pavers using Random Integer node.
I unwelded all quads and used Kray Autoparts
It seems to work in LW (and fprime) but Kray doesn't render the variations.
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Re: Help with nodal material
If is not DP Nodes then can be problem. But are not many Nodes which doesn`t work in Kray...almost zero. Maybe you got one 

Re: Help with nodal material
I think it maybe TrueArts random integer node ...