slow render times ...need help
slow render times ...need help
I've got an interior scene that seems to me to be rendering very slow for Kray. And I've got to do an animation for the project. The render times are around 13+ min at a 720 x 400 resolution on a 3.3GHz six-core machine. I've tried using luminous polys to light it (you can see those in the attached image) as well as (not at the same time) the large lights scene via the top view. I've got area lights at each of the windows which have been on when I use lumi polys and the large area lights. My settings are pretty basic (see below). Any quick help on this would be greatly appreciated.
Larry V
Romans 1:16
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Re: slow render times ...need help
you need of lumi panel - no area light!!!
delete caustic
can share the scene witout object?
delete caustic
can share the scene witout object?

Re: slow render times ...need help
Have you tried to light it with only lumi polys? Lot's of area lights can make render time quite slow. Also check with Kray override if reflection is maybe the cause of the problem.
Also if your going to animate it you need to set "passes" in FG tab to 1.
Also if your going to animate it you need to set "passes" in FG tab to 1.
- Jure
Re: slow render times ...need help
HUGE improvement in render times!!! Dropped to just over a minute! Thanks so much fellas. It's definitely blotchy compared to the previous renders, but I'll search the forums on how to clean that up. I'm trying to model more in modo, but dang I'm still enjoying Kray. Big thanks again guys.
What do you mean by delete caustic?nico wrote:you need of lumi panel - no area light!!!
delete caustic
can share the scene witout object?
On the FG tab I see Path Passes and just Passess (under the Min Rays) Which one are you referring to?jure wrote:Have you tried to light it with only lumi polys? Lot's of area lights can make render time quite slow. Also check with Kray override if reflection is maybe the cause of the problem.
Also if your going to animate it you need to set "passes" in FG tab to 1.
Larry V
Romans 1:16
For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ, for it is
the power of God to salvation for everyone who believes.
Romans 1:16
For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ, for it is
the power of God to salvation for everyone who believes.
Re: slow render times ...need help
Larry in PHOTONS PANEL Caustic preset insert LOW (NO MEDIUM) Caustic photons 0
> GLOBAL PHOTONS 2000000
if you need + lighting = power 2.0
IN FINAL GATHER PANEL FG Thereshould min 200 max 800
> GLOBAL PHOTONS 2000000
if you need + lighting = power 2.0
IN FINAL GATHER PANEL FG Thereshould min 200 max 800
Re: slow render times ...need help
Thanks Nico.
Larry V
Romans 1:16
For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ, for it is
the power of God to salvation for everyone who believes.
Romans 1:16
For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ, for it is
the power of God to salvation for everyone who believes.
Re: slow render times ...need help
Caustics are not enabled so this won't make any difference.nico wrote:Larry in PHOTONS PANEL Caustic preset insert LOW (NO MEDIUM) Caustic photons 0
> GLOBAL PHOTONS 2000000
if you need + lighting = power 2.0
IN FINAL GATHER PANEL FG Thereshould min 200 max 800
- Jure
Re: slow render times ...need help
oh i've see now general tab attachmentjure wrote:Caustics are not enabled so this won't make any difference.

Re: slow render times ...need help
I got the project done last week...thanks so much fellas. It's nothing big, but maybe I'll post it when I get an ok.
But just out of curiosity, what are the benefits of LW lights if Lumi Polys are soooo much faster? What's the pros and cons of each?
But just out of curiosity, what are the benefits of LW lights if Lumi Polys are soooo much faster? What's the pros and cons of each?
Larry V
Romans 1:16
For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ, for it is
the power of God to salvation for everyone who believes.
Romans 1:16
For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ, for it is
the power of God to salvation for everyone who believes.
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Re: slow render times ...need help
....As I said before LW lights are just "emulate" in Kray and second LW lights are physical sources of light (We do not need interpolation for them, only we can control noise level). Luminescence is faster, because is no control of noise (this is interpolated source of light) only we can control "contact shadow" by engine setup in Kray. I think first sources of light in Kray was luminescence because this is much easier to do. Will be nice to have special shader in Kray (same as V-ray lights) which increase speed of render of LW Lights....larry_g1s wrote:
But just out of curiosity, what are the benefits of LW lights if Lumi Polys are soooo much faster? What's the pros and cons of each?
I prefer luminescence ... is no limits for sources of light , easy to control, scene are "soft" in renders, no noise, we can hide item to make trick with rapid lights (small fake bulb lamp as RAYTRACING and hidden Lumi Ball as rapid light, etc...)

Re: slow render times ...need help
Very nice. Thanks.Janusz Biela wrote:....As I said before LW lights are just "emulate" in Kray and second LW lights are physical sources of light (We do not need interpolation for them, only we can control noise level). Luminescence is faster, because is no control of noise (this is interpolated source of light) only we can control "contact shadow" by engine setup in Kray. I think first sources of light in Kray was luminescence because this is much easier to do. Will be nice to have special shader in Kray (same as V-ray lights) which increase speed of render of LW Lights....larry_g1s wrote:
But just out of curiosity, what are the benefits of LW lights if Lumi Polys are soooo much faster? What's the pros and cons of each?
I prefer luminescence ... is no limits for sources of light , easy to control, scene are "soft" in renders, no noise, we can hide item to make trick with rapid lights (small fake bulb lamp as RAYTRACING and hidden Lumi Ball as rapid light, etc...)
Larry V
Romans 1:16
For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ, for it is
the power of God to salvation for everyone who believes.
Romans 1:16
For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ, for it is
the power of God to salvation for everyone who believes.