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V-ray and Kray
Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2011 12:12 am
by Janusz Biela
I noted some people complain Kray engine (splotches, no contact shadow etc...)
...is no so hard, just need playing with tonemaping and GOOD setup of surfaces.
Time render 9 min. V-ray has QMC I think. Thanks for Paolo for share scene .
Re: V-ray and Kray
Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2011 8:11 pm
by jnom
First render is better for me. What renderer is that?
Re: V-ray and Kray
Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 6:47 pm
by thomas
I don't think either of the two looks really good, so it's not the best comparison picture for me - I can find a thousand better Vray pics in 5 minutes, so I'm sorry but if you want to demonstrate Kray to be as good as Vray take a better benchmark!
This being said, I prefer working with Kray a lot over Vray!
thomas
Re: V-ray and Kray
Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 9:30 pm
by Janusz Biela
thomas wrote:I don't think either of the two looks really good, so it's not the best comparison picture for me - I can find a thousand better Vray pics in 5 minutes, so I'm sorry but if you want to demonstrate Kray to be as good as Vray take a better benchmark!
This being said, I prefer working with Kray a lot over Vray!
thomas
Good point , but I wanted show how easy is achieve level of V-ray in all scenes....
I got this scene and after 5 min tweak was ready...so is does not matter how complicate is scenes, we can do THE SAME or much better (except displacement, fur generator, volumetric light)

Re: V-ray and Kray
Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 10:43 pm
by jure
Janusz Biela wrote:
Good point , but I wanted show how easy is achieve level of V-ray in all scenes....
I got this scene and after 5 min tweak was ready...so is does not matter how complicate is scenes, we can do THE SAME or much better (except displacement, fur generator, volumetric light)

Yes but you are superhuman.

Re: V-ray and Kray
Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 2:12 pm
by Janusz Biela
jure wrote:
Yes but you are superhuman.


Just I know Kray very well and when You Jurko put 5 renders in the same time I put 50....so is just hard work , nothing extraordinary

Re: V-ray and Kray
Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 2:42 pm
by jure
Janusz Biela wrote:jure wrote:
Yes but you are superhuman.


Just I know Kray very well and when You Jurko put 5 renders in the same time I put 50....so is just hard work , nothing extraordinary

Are you trying to say i'm slow??!

Re: V-ray and Kray
Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 6:26 pm
by Janusz Biela
jure wrote:Janusz Biela wrote:jure wrote:
Yes but you are superhuman.


Just I know Kray very well and when You Jurko put 5 renders in the same time I put 50....so is just hard work , nothing extraordinary

Are you trying to say i'm slow??!

Empirically, yes

Re: V-ray and Kray
Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2011 12:35 am
by pantarei
Jure Janusz
Vray Kray
they are both good
I would like use V-ray (all features is there, displacement, proxy, volumetric channel )...but problem is with wasting time for learning max and V-ray (again 2 or 3 years?...for me 2-3 years is era..so I do not)

Re: V-ray and Kray
Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2011 12:39 am
by pantarei
I think second one is Kray right?
Re: V-ray and Kray
Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2011 3:18 am
by 3dworks
they are both looking good, but i must say that i prefer vray's antialiasing (bottom image).
Re: V-ray and Kray
Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2011 1:50 pm
by Janusz Biela
3dworks wrote:they are both looking good, but i must say that i prefer vray's antialiasing (bottom image).
AA is SAME...just different pixel filter. I will render for You more soft
I know in V-ray AA is very fast (20-40% faster then Kray, is hard to say how much, but from my tests is that..and we must remember AA is just small part of whole render, depends from scene of course ) but in Kray reflection and blurr is MUCH faster ...